Thank you Alan! See? I'm real vague on the dynamics. The hard numbers help a lot. Am I correct in thinking that the size of the inlet, at a given cubic feet per minute, would determine the optimum outside diameter of the cyclone?
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Thien Cyclone Separator Lid Discussion / Re: Torus?
July 30, 2012, 02:13:26 AM
OK that was dumb. The baffle board would NOT bisect the torus laterally but rather be sculpted across the bottom to preserve the curve, of course.
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Thien Cyclone Separator Lid Discussion / Torus?
July 30, 2012, 02:00:31 AM
I think, if air is a fluid, that we could smooth it's travel by altering the shape of the current design to that of a torus with a bell on the top side and the baffle escape slot on a plate that laterally bisects the interior.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torus
Fabrication might be done using the inner tube for a 12 inch tire. After inflation, it might be covered with plaster to make a mold?and that's as far as I've been able to get. This effort would give me the wall curvature, but what medium would I use in the mold? I assume some sort of heavy plastic.
My proper understanding of the finished product is very weak here. It might be that the sculpture would be mostly cut away in order to sculpt it nicely into the bell outlet, side inlet and the flat baffle board which would also act as the top of the catch barrel.
Am I on the right track? It's late. I may need a break from thinking about this for a while. Why can't we buy heavy plastic donuts off the shelf?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torus
Fabrication might be done using the inner tube for a 12 inch tire. After inflation, it might be covered with plaster to make a mold?and that's as far as I've been able to get. This effort would give me the wall curvature, but what medium would I use in the mold? I assume some sort of heavy plastic.
My proper understanding of the finished product is very weak here. It might be that the sculpture would be mostly cut away in order to sculpt it nicely into the bell outlet, side inlet and the flat baffle board which would also act as the top of the catch barrel.
Am I on the right track? It's late. I may need a break from thinking about this for a while. Why can't we buy heavy plastic donuts off the shelf?
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Thien Cyclone Separator Lid Discussion / Re: Eliminate motor tub?
May 21, 2012, 08:54:15 PM
I agree. The present norm is indeed the fine particle engineering that I mentioned.
Unless the tub volume is critical, might I not reduce it's size? What ill effects on the system might I expect to see?
Unless the tub volume is critical, might I not reduce it's size? What ill effects on the system might I expect to see?
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Thien Cyclone Separator Lid Discussion / Eliminate motor tub?
May 21, 2012, 10:36:32 AM
The video demonstrates the efficacy of your baffle design. Elegant work. I am ignorant about these things so I must ask for help.
Now that the sucked stuff stops at the first container, what is the purpose of the, now relative empty, vacuum cleaner tank?
Can I eliminate that tank and mount the motor on top of the hat at the exhaust port of the first tank? (I need to save space in my one-car garage.) Obviously this would require additional engineering for a HEPA unit in the design, but thats off-the-shelf stuff.
It's OK to laugh. I get that a lot. But might it work? Just asking.
Now that the sucked stuff stops at the first container, what is the purpose of the, now relative empty, vacuum cleaner tank?
Can I eliminate that tank and mount the motor on top of the hat at the exhaust port of the first tank? (I need to save space in my one-car garage.) Obviously this would require additional engineering for a HEPA unit in the design, but thats off-the-shelf stuff.
It's OK to laugh. I get that a lot. But might it work? Just asking.
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